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'Timeless'

Welcome to the fourth installment of Methos Episode discussion. You can find the last one, for 'Chivalry' here.

Timeless, Air Date: Feb. 1996

World famous pianist Claudia Jardine has a secret that even she doesn't know -- she's destined to become Immortal. Immortal impresario Walter Graham, who has guided the careers of mortal greats like Shakespeare, sees his chance to shepherd Claudia's genius forever and kills her, triggering her latent Immortality -- against MacLeod's better judgment. Meanwhile, Methos has fallen for Alexa, a waitress at Joe's who has a secret of her own. ~ via tv.com

Next up will be Deliverance. Look for it on Monday.

A few quotes below the curtain

Alexa Bond: I shouldn't have agreed to see you. It was stupid, really.
Adam Pierson/Methos: Why?
Alexa Bond: Because you don't need to be a witness to what I'm going through. It's gonna get ugly.
Adam Pierson/Methos: You look beautiful to me. (pause) Look, whatever it is you're going through, I can handle it (slight pause) if you let me.
Alexa Bond: Why would you want to?
Adam Pierson/Methos: Because the alternative is unthinkable
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Methos: Excuse me, if I sat at a table, would you be my waitress?
Alexa: Is he a good tipper?
Joe: No.
Alexa: Well, too bad. Makes up for it being cute though.
Methos: Cute. I can do cute. I'm, uh, Adam Pierson.
Alexa: Where're you from?
Methos: Um...
Alexa: Your accent. You're not from here.
Methos: No, I've travelled a lot.
Alexa: Really? Paris.
Methos: Paris is too full of Parisians. Even the French don't like Paris.
Alexa: Venice.
Methos: Venice, the smell alone will kill you.
Alexa: Little young to be so cynical, aren't you?
Methos: Uh, if you say so.
Alexa: I just did.
Methos: What did I say?
Joe: Ah, forget it. Alexa's not your type, okay?
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Duncan: Don't say a word.
Methos: Oops. Where's Alexa? We, uh, we have a date.
Joe: She called in sick.
Methos: Where does she live?
Joe: Adam, she doesn't want to see you, okay? Just leave her alone.
Methos: Joe, I didn't ask for your opinion. I know she's dying, okay? You are all dying. Twenty years. Six months. What's the difference?
Joe: She's protecting herself. She's protecting you, don't you get it?
Methos: Yes, I get it. Now tell me where she lives.
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Methos: Cute! I can do cute!
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So is this the Methos that's been married 69 times? I actually broke it down once, and assuming each was an individual wife, he was married about once every 73 years -- about once a mortal lifetime, I guess. Other than Cassandra, this is the only time we see Methos interact with a woman over time who's not Amanda (I think) (Charlotte was a one night stand, and there was Mary Shelly of course -- but she wasn't a lover AFAWK). I'm not really sure what my point is to tell you the truth :) Maybe I'm wondering if we can extrapolate the way Methos behaves in this episode and the number of marriages, to the conclusion that this aspect of Methos is a fairly common one, just one that we don't get to see much of in the brief window that we are able to observe him.

Now that I have everyone totally confused, I'll shut up!

..he was married about once every 73 years -- about once a mortal lifetime, I guess..

Yes and no - don't forget that longer lifespans are a recent phenomenon, despite the whole "threescore years and ten" thing. Making it to 40 was a pretty big achievement for most of the last 5000 years (still is, in some parts of the world). Then again I doubt he got hitched much during that millennium of insanity :)

I always wondered whether he married most of those women for love or just to fit in. It's obvious that he does fall in love (bless his lil cotton socks), but I can't get his "hiding in plain sight" aspect out of my head. This is a huge generalisation, but bachelors weren't exactly common in patriarchal societies (especially those with a tendency to levy soldiers for the local border dispute - the girls'd be fighting over a live one even more than usual!).

On the other hand, marrying a woman and never giving her kids could easily result in her being vilified for barrenness (never the bloke's fault, heh), so he could have aimed for the widows who've already had kids. Marrying and not procreating is (again) a relatively new concept.

Yeah, I was being very general, and I assume that at times, he probably had more than one wife at a time, and throw in the women he may have had relationships with, but not been married to.

I would think that some were for love and some were for practical reasons, and some were 'gifts', and probably a good share of widows with children. A variety pack.

So I guess I pretty much agree with you! [g]

Something else in this episode you really see is that Methos still has joy in life, he doesn't just exist, he enjoys his life and living.

*giggle* I think I understand you, it seems he just loves us mortal women and can't help marrying once a (mortal)lifetime, was that about it? (right I'm off to Paris/Seacouver to try and net (another) husband ) :)

I read a quote from Peter saying that authors didn't think when putting in the line about 68 wives then you get women coming to conventions as one of Methos's 68 "other wives" was that what that stalker you mentioned did?

I really liked this episode "cute, I can do cute!" oh boy he sure can,

"To... dinner, a film, a concert, a smile, a sunset, a walk, all of the above... whatever you would like." hmm all of the above?

was choked up at the end when he says "it is not long enough"

and doubled over laughing at "Hiding your husband in there, is that what's going on? Lover? Boyfriend? Seven dwarves?"
"I can take 'em all on. I'm not afraid"

Ok how about we say the entire episode?

Also near fell over at mac in drag, Oh My God! and shame on him if Kate were nicer there would be no play.

Will end with another favourite quote

"This date we're supposed to go on, I don't think it's a very good idea.
Don't you like me — a little?
It's not that.
It's my nose, isn't it? Yep, it's my nose.
No, it's not your nose. You have a very nice nose." yes a lovely nose :)

I need to wash my brain out after rereading that Methos the serial killer fic [shudder]

Says "cute, cute, cute" over and over again. Nice Methos! Heh.

Those are some great lines, I agree. and yes, you grasped what I tried to say so inarticulately. :)

yes kind of like a calming mantra

nice methos, cute Methos, good Methos

eep (keep wanting to add- please don't hurt me Methos)
huh not that begging would help much

lol, what's funny is that the Methos & Alexa story is just he B storyline. Claudia is the A storyline. But when you think of Timeless - what do you think of? Alexa!

And Methos, of course. I did like Walter. In his own way,he was just as much an imp as Fitz. And the sword fight between Duncan and Walter at the end was just awesome.

The end of this show is just so memorable. First, you have ~~Adrian~~ Duncan standing there - his hair down - gorgeous and looking very sad.

Then you have ~~Peter~~ Methos looking very very cute and also very sad as he and Alexa get ready to leave.

Then you have that moment when Methos leans in and it looks like he's going to kiss Duncan - it's just such a close moment without them actually embracing when Methos brushes by Duncan to say good-bye. Just enough hesitancy as he gets so close to Duncan - then pulls away.

*sigh*

As for quotes - don't forget the one where Methos says "6 months - twenty years, what's the difference? You all die". Or something very close to that. Peter says they almost lost that line in editing, but he fought to keep it in because it is just so Methos.

lol, what's funny is that the Methos & Alexa story is just he B storyline. Claudia is the A storyline. But when you think of Timeless - what do you think of? Alexa!

To be honest, whenever it's a Methos ep. I barely remember any other part of the episode. Heh. I'm curious if those who don't like Methos only really recall the front story though.

And Methos, of course. I did like Walter. In his own way,he was just as much an imp as Fitz. And the sword fight between Duncan and Walter at the end was just awesome.

I think it was on the DVD extra stuff where they said initially Walter was a bad guy. I'm glad they went with the Walter they did. Great character.

Then you have that moment when Methos leans in and it looks like he's going to kiss Duncan - it's just such a close moment without them actually embracing when Methos brushes by Duncan to say good-bye. Just enough hesitancy as he gets so close to Duncan - then pulls away.

It's a testement to the power of the show that fans can have such different impressions of the show from one another.

As for quotes - don't forget the one where Methos says "6 months - twenty years, what's the difference? You all die". Or something very close to that. Peter says they almost lost that line in editing, but he fought to keep it in because it is just so Methos.

Yep! That one is included in the quotes I put in the post. Very much a 'Methos' moment.

To be honest, whenever it's a Methos ep. I barely remember any other part of the episode. Heh. I'm curious if those who don't like Methos only really recall the front story though.

There's someone who doesn't like Methos? *amazed*

It's a testement to the power of the show that fans can have such different impressions of the show from one another.
Not just the fans. One of the things we've talked about in the past is that the writers, actors and directors of the show also see certain scenes and characters differently. In Sydney, David A and Adrian had a conflict on the interpretation of two scenes in Something Wicked and Deliverance and what certain scenes showed or meant. It's very interesting.

Yep! That one is included in the quotes I put in the post. Very much a 'Methos' moment.

So you did. Sorry. It was a Methos moment. And I'm glad Peter fought to keep it.

There's someone who doesn't like Methos? *amazed*

Hard to fathom, huh? Heh.

Not just the fans. One of the things we've talked about in the past is that the writers, actors and directors of the show also see certain scenes and characters differently. In Sydney, David A and Adrian had a conflict on the interpretation of two scenes in Something Wicked and Deliverance and what certain scenes showed or meant. It's very interesting.

[nods in agreement] One of the best things about getting the DVDs recently was all the extra stuff. And the stuff you hear at panels and such at cons.

So you did. Sorry. It was a Methos moment. And I'm glad Peter fought to keep it.

Just wanted you to be able to see the full quote. It's a doozy. Yeah, I'm glad he fought to keep it as well.

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