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I hate it when I have comments I want to reply to on an LJ post, and I can't because no access from work, so instead, crosspost a whine about it. So I'll have to respond 9 odd hours from now.

Some of it was in regards to the facebook/twitter linking thing. But just wait 9 hours [g]

Date: 2010-09-01 05:29 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] pat-t.livejournal.com
Definitely worrying. However note that in every sentence it states *you* have to either manually choose or override yourself for the option to work. No one can come to my LJ and override or manually choose it for me. *I* have to do it.

Once again, that said it is very easy to simply copy and paste. If someone were truly interested in spreading around your content that is so much easier done than playing around with this crazy system in order to figure out how to outsmart it *g*. They can link to my f-locked posts, but unless they are friended anyway, they will simply get either an error link or a link telling them they don't have access.

However you certainly can copy and post any sentence from my comment here and paste it onto your community. It has nothing to do with this option. If no one told me I would never know.

Anyone can copy part of a f-locked post and go to their facebook and twitter account - paste it on and tell people where they got it. You don't have to have the lovely new settings and so-called *kewl* stuff to do that.

Date: 2010-09-01 06:41 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] dj-aida.livejournal.com
ext_4033: My initials in Tolkien's Elvish script Tengwar (Default)
No, that's right, you don't. But up to now we've operated under the assumption that people will honor the posters wish and not spread what was said in an flocked post around. You had to deliberately choose to copy, paste and spread the word around.

Now all you have to do is tick a couple of boxes in your settings, and the public comments you make automatically get shipped off to Facebook/Twitter, or if you are used to using just the keyboard and not the mouse to post, you can send the post off unintentionally. I've read that it especially affects people with disabilities, who might have a hard time moving their hands from their keyboard to their mouse and vice versa, and have gotten used to a certain number of key presses (tab+enter has now turned into tab+tab+enter, which apparently also messes with screen readers for people with vision problems).

So yes, true privacy is an illusion on the internet, and I'm not that worried of being connected to my full name (although I'd rather not have my students having a peek into what I do in my free time), but I'm bothered by LJ springing options no one wants for various reasons onto people, buttons I dislike showing up in my carefully crafted journal, and finally, having these sites which I use but am mostly unhappy with shoved in my face wherever I turn.

I will remove the buttons via Greasemonkey, but I resent having to jump through hoops and using a third party application when I should be offered an option to disable this on my journal, comments in it, and communities I maintain/mod.

Date: 2010-09-01 07:07 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] pat-t.livejournal.com
Thanks. You too. It's been interesting. And you're right. I resent having to jump through hoops too. ANd it's one more thing you have to think about and make sure your settings are just so our you can get into something you don't want to.

However, per your prior comment you state all you have to do is click on a couple of boxes on your settings. But *you* still have to manually go there, find the boxes and click on them for that option to work. I can't go to Ith's settings (for example) and click them for her. She has to. It doesn't go there by default (thankfully!). You physically have to make the point of going to your settings, finding the boxes, clicking on them and hitting save for that to happen.

Ur, I chose not to. But, paranoid as I am, I did go to my settings to make sure they weren't check-marked by error from me or LJ.

Date: 2010-09-01 06:48 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] dj-aida.livejournal.com
ext_4033: My initials in Tolkien's Elvish script Tengwar (Default)
I'll just add a link to this post (http://news.livejournal.com/129190.html?thread=86750118#t86750118) and withdraw from the conversation. It was interesting seeing your perspective on this feature; I feel it's more intrusive than you do, so maybe it's best to agree to disagree.

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