'Finale'

[ithildin]

Welcome to our second installment of Methos Episode discussion! You can find the first one, for 'Methos' here.

Finale Parts One & Two, Air Date: May 1995

Amanda accidentally helps Kalas escape from prison by trying to do MacLeod a favor and kill Kalas for him. After an attempt on Maurice's life thwarted by MacLeod, Kalas kidnaps Amanda to use as bait against MacLeod, but Amanda manages to escape.

Meanwhile, Christine Salzer, the widow of a Watcher killed by Kalas (in "Methos") decides to get her revenge on Immortals and Watchers alike by exposing their secret to the media. Dawson and Methos team up to try and talk Christine out of it, but she's determined to take a computer disk with the identities of all known Immortals and Watchers on it to a newspaper publisher. Dawson, desperate, tries to kill her outside the newspaper building, but is stopped by MacLeod and Methos. Christine enters the building and the Immortals and the Watchers know their lives are about to change forever.

As Christine tells her tale to the newspaper publisher, MacLeod and Amanda, knowing their world is about to end, finally admit they love each other. Kalas kills Christine and the publisher and steals the computer disk before they have a chance to spread the story. Kalas offers MacLeod a deal -- MacLeod offers up his head or the contents of the disk are made public. Dawson and the Watchers attempt to find Kalas, but this only results in more dead Watchers.

Methos tries to talk MacLeod out of it, but MacLeod agrees to fight Kalas on top of the Eiffel Tower. Kalas is defeated and the resulting Quickening, amplified by the Tower, sends a power surge that disrupts every computer in the vicinity -- including Kalas'. The information on the disk is destroyed and Immortals and Watchers maintain their anonymity. ~via tv.com

Next week, we'll move on to Season Four with Chivalry and Timeless (I love Chivalry!)

A few quotes below the curtain





Joe: What were you thinking about?
Methos: I wasn't thinking, I was improvising.
Joe: By cutting yourself open? It took you five thousand years to come up with that?
Methos: What were you expecting? Einstein? Freud? Buddha? I'm sorry, Joe, I'm just a guy.
Joe: I guess next you're gonna tell me there's no Santa Claus.
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Methos: "The passion of youth."
Duncan: "Boys will be boys."
Methos: And "every cloud has a silver lining."
Duncan: What d'you mean?
Methos: If you die, Amanda will be free to date.
Duncan: That's a comfort.
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Methos: I was in Rome once, ninety-three AD, Coliseum, I saw Christians facing the lions. Some of them looked almost happy to die for their faith.
Duncan: Your point or we just strolling down memory lane here?
Methos: But afterwards the only ones looking happy were the lions.
Duncan: This isn't about faith.
Methos: No, it's about sacrifice. It's a hell of a thing to be a martyr, MacLeod, and that's what Kalas wants; he's pushing all your buttons.
Duncan: Well, I'm open to suggestions; enlighten me.
Methos: Maybe Amanda's right; you fight your best fight.
Duncan: What, every man for himself and to hell with the rest?
Methos: So what if the world finds out. Life is about change, civilizations rise and fall.
Duncan: This isn't about civilizations, this is about people. Amanda, Dawson, Richie. Our world is not an ant farm.

Comments

[rivendellrose.livejournal.com]

Oh, fond memories... ♥

Thanks for posting these - it's great to read the little quotes again, since it's been a while since I've seen any of the episodes.

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

You're welcome! I've been enjoying it too, especially since the early eps, I wasn't online, and the later ones, I was too shy to participate in online discussions.

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

Okay, my first silly observation: the orange cords of alien doom. Where on earth, and why, did they find those things? Then, instead of burning them, protecting our planet from their evil, they tossed them in a storeroom somewhere where they mutated into Stephen Keane's orange pimp suit of alien doom. [shudder]

"Hi, I'm the world's oldest immortal -- how do you like my repellant orange cords? Cool, huh?"

[pattyfeidt.livejournal.com]

I am here from Pat t's lj =0)

Yeah the pants were scary. He looks better in the nice tight jeans we see later.

I love the quotes you used... especially the Amanda will be free to date. The look on Duncan's face was soooo cute.

ps I friended you if thats ok =0)

[pattyfeidt.livejournal.com]

I also just read Ghosts of Winters Past

Did you ever write more of it? I really enjoyed it and I could so see those two interacting like that. Cool story =0)

[beccadg.livejournal.com]

"Hi, I'm the world's oldest immortal -- how do you like my repellent orange cords? Cool, huh?"

*Giggles.* They're "Adam" pants. You're suppose to take one look at them and go, "No way would a 5,000 year old man's taste be so bad he'd wear those." You know, thinking about it, that may explain the fringe leather jacket in the next Highlander flick too. It's some kind of camouflage. *Ponders.*

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

I love being friended! :) Mmmm... nice tight jeans. [sigh]

The Amanda being free to date line is a fave of mine :)

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

Lord, I reread that today and couldn't believe it's been ten years since I wrote it! I'm glad you liked it :) i'm still quite fond of it. Actually, the majority of my fic is based on the foundations of that first story. Let's see, what has the most LaCroix, Methos interaction?

If you go here (http://www.ondragonswing.com/tales/btarchive.htm) I'd choose these stories: Premonitions of Twilight, mmm... probably Not Without Loss, The Last Time We First Met, and Fathers Christmas. Off the top of my head, those probably have the most Methos and LaCroix interaction.

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

I have yet to see the leather fringe jacket! I had one when I was 10 :)

You're suppose to take one look at them and go, "No way would a 5,000 year old man's taste be so bad he'd wear those.

ROTFL! Sort of a riff on "Adam Pierson couldn't afford any place I would stay." (I think that's the quote)

[beccadg.livejournal.com]

I have yet to see the leather fringe jacket!
Shoot! I can't remember where I saw the still to pass it along. I thought the still was bad until I saw the jacket in motion in the footage they played for us at Leeds. *Shudders.* I'm afraid, afraid.

ROTFL! Sort of a riff on "Adam Pierson couldn't afford any place I would stay." (I think that's the quote)

*Smiles brightly.* Exactly. ;)

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

Open call!! If anyone has a link to the fringe jacket, pleeeease let me know! I'll love you forever.

[enchantersnight.livejournal.com]

Haven't seen these yet (working on it) but Orange cords of doom! *giggle* can't wait

[sophiedb.livejournal.com]

It's the camouflage thing again - everyone'll remember the cords, not the face. A bit like a girl with big boobs :p

First Thoughts

[enchantersnight.livejournal.com]

Ok how cute are Amanda and Duncan dancing on the Eiffel Tower! and the whole dancer flashback was brilliant.

Loved the "amanda would be free to date" line *giggle* isn't he precious, btw did we see them introduced or was that time at the barge the first meeting?

Glad that Kalas is dead (quite a light show eh?) and did Mac jump from the tower he got down way quick!

The orange cords of doom -never mind that what is with the anorak! I mean even exuding sex appeal that takes the biscuit, when do we get to the tight jeans? and what is this I hear about toes? not to mention the boxer shorts!

Ok off for a cold shower

Re: First Thoughts

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

Loved the "amanda would be free to date" line *giggle* isn't he precious, btw did we see them introduced or was that time at the barge the first meeting?


One of the big boo boos in HL continuity. Somone else may tell/remember this better, but I'll give it a shot. They just totally spaced that Amanda wouldn't know his name was Methos. But it was too late by the time it occured them. I'd read somewhere that they'd actually intended to 'fix' it later, by having Methos knowing Rebecca, Amanda's teacher.

[marys-scribbles.livejournal.com]

Is this the pic?



It's from a post pat_t made in highlander_lj a while back.

Btw, I'm enjoying these discussions. When I have a brain again I'll try to contribute a bit. I hope you don't mind that I've friended you.

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

Glad you're enjoying the discussions! Thanks for pic! I don't see any fringes, so I dunno, but it's nice regardless :) And no, I love being friended!

[marys-scribbles.livejournal.com]

This is the only pic I've seen with a fringe ... If you look under his left arm you'll see a bit of it hanging down. But yeah, it's a nice pic regardless. Yet another of those things that make me so torn about this new film.

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

Probably my monitor. At work, it's flooded with light and it's hard to see detail. Will look closer at home.

As for the movie, at the least, we'll have some pretty pics of Methos out of it :)

[eveningblue.livejournal.com]

There is *so much* to love about these episodes! They are just packed full of good stuff, from flashbacks to Watcher stuff to Kalas. I like the quotes you've picked out. The first one I find especially intriguing, because we see again this expectation that Methos would be this brilliant guy because he has lived so long, but really all he has learned how to do is survive. (It's similar to the scene in "Methos" with him and Mac walking along the river, where Mac asks him what he makes of all of it, and he shurgs.)

It's possible that he's being disingenuous, but it's also possible that it's a comment on what Immortals *lack*. They lack the creeping knowledge of age, and of death, and the awareness that they only have a limited amount of time to do what they're going to do. They also have to worry about guys with swords coming round to hack their heads off. So they can't achieve greatness (like Freud or Einstein), they can only work on survival skills. Unless they accept possible death, but it's obvious that Methos values survival above all else.

[beccadg.livejournal.com]

*Nods.* That's the still I was thinking of, thought it seems like a mushier scan than I saw. *Wonders where she saw it.*

[beccadg.livejournal.com]

It's on the arms, up and down them... Fortunately I can't remember at the moment if it goes across the back too. My powers of repression are strong. :D

Random Bits

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

Trying to fit something in between phone calls... one of the things that stood out for me in this episode was Methos' developing friendship with Joe. The relationship between Joe and Methos has always been one of the things I've enjoyed most about the series.

The bit about telling Duncan that it was Watcher business and didn't concern him always stood out for me.

The beginning of all those 'Methos' Fables' (Maybe Methos was Aesop? [g])

More later, I'm sure.

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

I love that! I hadn't thought of it from that angle before, but it really does make a great deal of sense.

[beccadg.livejournal.com]

So they can't achieve greatness (like Freud or Einstein), they can only work on survival skills.

They can work on things besides survival skills. One of things I like in Modern Prometheus is the little bit we get of how Methos got into being a doctor. He is very well educated. His intelligence and ability to learn aren't limited by being Immortal. I think the point to "I'm just guy," isn't that he isn't human, but that he's still human, not more or less.