ithildin: (Secrets)
I've been chatting with an old friend from Forever Knight fandom today, and it got me to thinking (run and hide now before it's too late!).

Fandom for me is kind of like a pyramid. The bottom layer is composed of shows/movies I love, and follow religiously, but never read or write fic for, or join/start an email list for, or would travel to a con for, probably wouldn't buy the DVDs. Currently on the air, that would be shows like Lost, 24, 4400. Then the next layer. I'll join an email list, maybe even start one, but generally no fic, probably no cons (if there were any), though I'd consider it. I might buy DVDs. That gets me shows like Battlestar Galactica, Supernatural, Atlantis, HEX. The next layer up is more involvement, probably some combo of many of the things I've mentioned already. Stargate, Pirates of the Caribbean, Grey's Anatomy, House, Dr. Who, Slings & Arrows, Gilmore Girls, Firefly (which is not quite dead, so I'm including it). Then there's the pinnacle! Fandoms I spend lots of time talking about, I write fic for on a regular basis, I socialize with fellow fans, I'm a fanatic [g] Now, turns out those few special ones are both dead shows: Forever Knight and Highlander. I have no new, living, still on the air, 'real' fandoms. And I wonder if there's a fandom like that out there still for me to find? Or did I peak fandom wise? Maybe some of those second layer shows will move up at some point, or maybe something new will come along, but it's been a lot of years in between pinnacles!

I'm not sure, but I think some of those lower tier shows are just too big to ever be able to duplicate that feeling of belonging to a fandom. Mainstream shows lack the intimacy of smaller niche shows when you're trying to get to know your fellow fans. Maybe that the difference, maybe that's why there hasn't been anything new to really grab all my fannish interest. I think it's the people and the relationships that are the glue in a fandom. If I look at those layers, I realize that the one thing keeping most of those shows from reaching the pinnacle is no real interaction with fellow fans in any meaningful way.

I should probably just be grateful for the fandoms I have had, and not expect lightening to strike again. But that doesn't stop me from pondering the subject!

(Now I have that song "All The Girls I've Loved Before" in my head! Arrr!!)

Date: 2006-09-27 09:01 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] saighin.livejournal.com
Out of curiosity, did you ever get around to being exposed to "Deadwood"? (Although that one has now tragicly been cancelled too *pout*)
For me, that was one that rapidly & rampantly hit that top tier. Though writing fanfic for it's sadly beyond me; the sophistication of the dialogue, even at its most vulgar, is too intricate for little me (I can follow it, but I damn sure can't write it. Even when it's chock full of "cocksucker" & "cunt", it borders on Shakespearean). It would demand the expertise of more advanced wordsmiths like you, Nin, or Maygra ;-)

Date: 2006-09-27 09:19 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] sophiedb.livejournal.com
I tried watching Deadwood, but could never get over the fact that Lovejoy is "in charge." Definitely a good show though!

Date: 2006-09-27 09:53 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] saighin.livejournal.com
Hehehe! Okay, that I can understand...*grin* though Al comes across a bit more "Teddy Bass (from "Sexy Beast") from hell" than Lovejoy...

Date: 2006-09-27 09:56 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
ext_9031: (Helm - Shoot Low)
No, we never got the channel it was on. Though I'm not sure it would have been my cup of tea. I tend to dislike excessive foul language :) It would be a coin toss as to whether the show grabbed me enough for me to overlook that aspect. And I do really like Ian McShane, so another point in its favour!

(yeah, I think of it as the show with Lovejoy too [g])

Date: 2006-09-27 10:18 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] saighin.livejournal.com
Hmmm...methinks I should mail you the DVDs and get you and Nin hooked on it ;-) Especially if you're already an Ian McShane fan...
But yeah, being a fan of the show did turn me back into a bit of a gutter-mouth *innocent, angelic smile*...but the show manages to make even the most crass words come across like Byron's poetics...and really, not much beats Ian McShane singing "The Unfortunate Rake" *grin*...

Date: 2006-09-27 10:26 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
ext_9031: (Watanabe - Horse)
Tell you what, I'll rent the first season this winter when I catch up with new TV and the DVDs I already have backlogged. You aren't the first person to rec the show, so I should probably take a peek :) And yeah, I love IM. Am I the only person who remembers he was on Dallas?

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