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people who have read the Game of Thrones books,
This show is just so unremittingly violent, and more than that, hopeless. They kill off almost everyone who you even give a damn about, in the most brutal way possible, and I wonder why keep on with it? Is there a point, when you finally get to the end? Or is it just one long relentless blood bath? Because if that's all it is, I think I'm done. Tonight's episode was just horrible, upsetting, and I just would like to know if it ever gets better?
This show is just so unremittingly violent, and more than that, hopeless. They kill off almost everyone who you even give a damn about, in the most brutal way possible, and I wonder why keep on with it? Is there a point, when you finally get to the end? Or is it just one long relentless blood bath? Because if that's all it is, I think I'm done. Tonight's episode was just horrible, upsetting, and I just would like to know if it ever gets better?
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Date: 2013-06-03 10:58 am (UTC)From:I also don't know what the show is doing (i've watched it very intermittently) so I can't speak to whether this aspect of the books is even present there, but there's a lot of deconstruction and questioning of the way violence is used in stories, and who you expect to be the hero and how the story 'should' turn out and so on. It's not a shock-value, see-what-I-did-there thing in the books, at least it never has been for me. (I read this 12 years ago, after all. I've had some time to think about it.)
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Date: 2013-06-03 06:31 pm (UTC)From:Honestly, most of my friends LOVE the books and the tv series, but I have enough going on in my real life that I don't want to read about bleak, depressing worlds full of pain and death.
On the plus side, you and I can catch up on the series after everything is done with (if we want), and that will be fun too.
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Date: 2013-06-03 06:34 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2013-06-05 06:23 am (UTC)From:That's been my feeling. I suspect the series "Winter is coming" tag-line it isn't just a motto, or a teaser, it's a plain statement of fact. I expect in the end all of the characters lives, and all of the politics will prove to have been pointless. There might be one person who has solidified their control of the Iron Throne, but they'll have done it just in time for the end of the world. It'll be a pyrrhic victory. I could be wrong. GRRM might have something else in mind. He could do something else. I just wouldn't bet money on it.
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Date: 2013-06-05 02:58 pm (UTC)From:Oh, there's going to be no "winner," that's for sure. Only way to win is not to play, and no one has a choice in that, or Ned Stark wouldn't have been killed off in the first book. Even if there is a winner, it's not really going to be a win. It's going to be the generation-long lull that's a prologue to the next maneuvers in the game.
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Date: 2013-06-06 03:40 am (UTC)From:I'm not sure there's going to be "future generations" when it's done. I've seen people talk about dragons as being "Weapons of Mass Destruction" in the series, but I haven't seen anyone talk about GRRM's use of "winter" as an obvious allusion to "nuclear winter." I suspect he isn't just going to destroy the characters and the politics. I suspect he's going to destroy EVERYTHING. I mean by the time J.K. Rowling got to writing the last Harry book I knew the only questions I saw left where whether Snape would ultimately be good or evil, and whether or not Harry would have to die. Both questions she answered in the last book. Already the only question I see left about GRRM's series is will he destroy everything or not? I cared about Snape and Harry so I was interested in J.K. Rowling's answer. I don't care about GRRM's world so I don't have much interest in his answer.