ithildin: (yoda guy)
Welcome to the twelfth installment of Methos Episode Discussion. You can find the last one, for The Messenger here. All prior episode discussion links can be found over on the sidebar.

The Valkyrie, Air Date: Feb. 1997

In 1944, Ingrid Henning had the chance to kill Adolf Hitler and failed.She's been atoning for that failure ever since by killing dictators,tyrants, racists, and fascists who might have the potential to becomeas dangerous. MacLeod has a chance to stop her before she kills more mortals, but by stopping her, does MacLeod commit the same evil for which he's judged her guilty? ~ recap & quotes via tv.com


Next up will be Comes A Horseman and (perhaps) Revelation 6:8. Look for it/them on Thursday.

Quotes below the curtain





Methos: You okay?
Duncan: Ingrid asked me something before she died.
Methos: They usually do.
Duncan: She said, "What was the difference between her killing them and me killing her?"
Methos: Good question. Right up there with chicken and egg.
Duncan: So what are you saying? There is no answer?
Methos: No, there is an answer. The real question is whether you're ready for it. Stefanovich killed, and Ingrid judged him. Wilkinson killed, and Ingrid killed him. Ingrid killed, and you judged her.
Duncan: So, who judges me?
Methos: You hungry?
________________________

Joe: You know, you really can be an arrogant pain in the ass sometimes.
Methos: Guilty as charged.
________________________

Duncan: You mind telling me what you find funny about all this?
Methos: Not exactly funny, but, uh...pretty entertaining, yeah.
Joe: Just what is so entertaining?
Methos: MacLeod tussling with another of his moral dilemmas.
Duncan: You know there are times I really don't like you.
Methos: That's okay - sometimes I don't like myself.
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(Ingrid Henning enters)
Methos: Time to go.
Duncan: She's a friend.
Methos: Listen, when they carry a sword and I haven't been fully introduced, I get shy.
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Duncan: Since when are you my attorney?
Methos: Whatever you need: lawyer, doctor, Indian chief - I've got paperwork to cover it all.
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Methos: Look at this. It's an exhibition of Greek antiquities.
Duncan: Oh, yeah, I can't wait. A two thousand five hundred year-old garage sale.
Methos: Listen - some of this stuff could be mine.
________________________

Duncan: You're an old cynic.
Methos: I try.
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Date: 2006-05-30 06:42 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
ext_9031: (Methos Blue)
I almost forgot! Methos doesn't like boxing. I found it interesting that Duncan is a big enthusiast of the sport, and Methos seems to find it distasteful.

snarky!

Date: 2006-05-30 07:00 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] eveningblue.livejournal.com
Right! Actually one of the funniest lines in the episode is when Duncan says that Charlies would have wanted them to sponsor such a place, because it could help keep kids off the streets.

"Right," says Methos, "Because a kid might get hurt out on the streets."

Re: snarky!

Date: 2006-05-31 03:46 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] mackiedockie.livejournal.com
ext_14860: (Default)

As a fight-related aside, the quote below is attributed to Jim Byrnes by a B. C. newspaper recently after a bout, but could easily have come from Joe (who was also in the opening boxing scene*g*:

“It’s a great sport. I fought when I was a kid under an old Irish priest. I hated getting hit so much they thought I was good.”

Re: snarky!

Date: 2006-07-04 09:10 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] holde-maid.livejournal.com
I love that scene, it's so perfect.

And of COURSE Methos doesn't like boxing!
First, it is not as efficient when fighting other martial arts - which goes for most martial arts involving competitions, actually, because they have to have rules that stop you from doing real harm.
Second, it constitutes pointless violence. Not that he'd have moral qualms about that, but I don't see him wasting energy or risking to lower his potential as an opponent in the Game needlessly.

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