Cold?

[ithildin]

I'm watching the ep where Anne comes to Paris, and she wants Duncan to put a coat on even thought he can't catch a cold, and he replies, 'we can catch colds, just not die of them.' I don't ever remember knowing that they could get any sort of illness?

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[eveningblue.livejournal.com]

Here's a riddle for you:

If the body cannot regenerate limbs, it would stand to reason that it cannot regenerate organs, either.

So what if an Immortal had his or her heart ripped out?

[calime]

Actually, that reminds me of one probably little-explored question - can you imagine how vulnerable an immortal is during a death? Mostly I guess we tend to concentrate on how lucky they are to revive. But what thay can or can't regenerate notwhitstanding, a large chunk of those deaths tend to happen in a situation where vulnerability is very bad from the ultimate survival point of view. So sometimes I think that dying for an immortal wouldn't be quite that run-of-the-mill experience it sometimes gets described as, and not only for the physical discomfort involved - it's still the ultimate trip into the unknown - they never know if they're going to get back up again or whether this is IT. Which also brings me to the point that when an immortal character is tortured (to give up information for example), I'm not convinced dying would be an 'easy out', before the pain/torture grows great enough to override self preservation instinct.
As to the regeneration of limbs etc...wasnt Nefertiri entombed for a while? Which would have meant removing internal organs for the mummification process. So if canon says 'no regeneration of limbs' then it's contradicting itself *biiig surprise eg*. Because, no regeneration of a toe, for example, but will grow a new liver? Well, duh. Or we can try to get around it saying *they can regenerate as long as the head is attached (and maybe a reasonable chunk of the torso too), but it takes a hell of a long time?

[killabeez.livejournal.com]

Absolutely fascinating discussion, and I'm enjoying it muchly.

So if canon says 'no regeneration of limbs' then it's contradicting itself

It doesn't, actually. What we know about this is that Xavier had his hand lopped off in February of 1993, and he hadn't grown it back a year or so later. Nobody actually says anything about whether he will, eventually, grow it back. Nobody says anything about whether a year is an unusually long time for the regeneration to take, or when he might expect to see that hand again.

Nefertiri is a whole story in and of herself. Some people say that the fact that Duncan sensed her means that the "buzz" persists through death. But I'd say it's more likely she wasn't dead when he sensed her. Perhaps she spent 2000 years dying and reviving again. Perhaps it took her 50 years to grow everything back -- or 5 days. We really don't have any canon to tell us.

As for the violent death, that was made canon by Raven and by Endgame, for those who accept those two sources as canon. Connor specifically says it's the "shock of a violent death" that triggers Immortality.

I love all the ideas about why sometimes death lasts longer, and why neck wounds might not heal, etc. Some of these I haven't heard before.

[mischief5.livejournal.com]

In Rhiannon's Linewars, she suggested that an Immortal could regrow a limb but that they were so vulnerable during that time that they usually were killed before the regeneration process could be completed. However, if they had someone to protect them until they were whole again, it was possible.

Also, on the neck wounds: I always thought that if the cut was close enough to decapitation it wouldn't heal completely. Thus both Kalas and The Kurgan were left with scars. I guess that will teach you to mess with the MacLeods. VBEG

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

I've often wondered if a limb would grow back, it would just take decades.

My feeling was that Nefertiri just happened to be alive for those few moments Duncan felt her. Reviving and dying, over and over like the seas captain guy in the second Kenny eppy.

In the last season of Forever Knight they dealt with lomb loss in a vampire. Turned out they had to find the limb and reattach it so it would grow back together.

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

I remember nothing from Endgame [g] Except Methos' pink shirt. Or was it coral? I do remember drinking several lovely margaritas after though!

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

I would think that being an immie combined with torture would be pretty horrific. Years and years ago, I remember reading a fic where Methos was in a concentration camp during WWII. [shudder]