The thing is, Jenny didn't regenerate, she got fixed by the 'sparkly-I-bring-life-terraforming-stuff' ala Spock. Also, the hand only regrew because Ten had just undergone a full regeration - of course, it could be a regeration, ala Romana (i.e. he chooses his form) but they'd have to hand wave away Nine/Ten's explanation of how a regeneration works in New Who and retcon the Time War (Dalek Lasers kill Time Lords STONE dead... )
Wouldn't be the first time they retconned and ignored their own canon [g] But all those reasons are why it would bug me if if this wasn't an actual regeneration.
Pondering fan reaction, and I wonder if us old Whovians are more likely to embrace a regeneration than the new fans? The same way that old fans aren't as hot and bothered over new companions? Ooooh! Roooooose! /cough
As someone on my flist once said, a lot of the fans who were introduced to the show through New Who thought they were watching the RoseTyler show, and felt awfully betrayed at the end of season two as a result - and I can kind of see their point. if I hadn't watched DW as a kid...
And now if Ten is leaving...
Maybe, RTD is trying to soften up the audience, for the real thing? Because, lets face it, Moffat will probably want to have his very own Doctor to play with...
And, I agree... Since I'm an older fan (Sylvester McCoy as my favorite Doctor (or, as I call him, 'Sly'. Even said it to his face. [weg]) I'm not all "NOOOOOOOO! HE NEEDS TO STAY AND BE HAPPY WITH HIS TRU LUV, ROSE!" (Gah! Gave myself a headache just reading that!)
I mean, I like Tennant in the role, but I figured it would happen sooner or later... 3 seasons is a good run for a Doctor.
Then again, it could be a reset (Which I think is a-a cop-out, and b-passe since they did it as the season ender of last season!).
If it is a reset, I don't know if I'd enjoy it as much... I mean, come on! How many times are aliens going to take over the Earth and decimate the human race to only be have it set back to right and no one remember it! We need something like this as a planet to move forward in the galactic forum!
I think in this day and age--i.e., of digital playback, the internet, and a larger group of obsessive fans--it would be hard to ignore canon on that grand a scale.
I have bits of theories floating around, but most of them involve Cosmic Reset Buttons. Which we've already used (twice), so part of me actually wants consequences. OTOH, David Tennant is my TV Boyfriend, so I'm reluctant to let him go.
The thing is, Jenny didn't regenerate, she got fixed by the 'sparkly-I-bring-life-terraforming-stuff' ala Spock.
I don't buy that explanation. I think it having been been an "echo" of a full regeneration, just as the Doctor said Jenny's having two hearts only made her an "echo" of a Time Lord, is more believable than it being the terraforming stuff working that late and that specifically after its release. But then there's lots of New Who writing that doesn't impress me.
Also, the hand only regrew because Ten had just undergone a full regeneration...
It was more than his having been through a full regeneration, it was his having been through the regeneration because of being suffused with the energy from the vortex which he spent so much of the special bleeding back out. Thing is, however, with RTD having brought "Bad Wolf" back up I'll be surprised if that particular reset button/Deus Ex Machina isn't revisited.
...they'd have to hand wave away Nine/Ten's explanation of how a regeneration works in New Who and retcon the Time War...
I'm hoping some retconning of the Time War is on the agenda, just not enough to fuck up Captain Jack Harkness's being a fixed point.
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Date: 2008-06-29 02:25 am (UTC)From:The thing is, Jenny didn't regenerate, she got fixed by the 'sparkly-I-bring-life-terraforming-stuff' ala Spock. Also, the hand only regrew because Ten had just undergone a full regeration - of course, it could be a regeration, ala Romana (i.e. he chooses his form) but they'd have to hand wave away Nine/Ten's explanation of how a regeneration works in New Who and retcon the Time War (Dalek Lasers kill Time Lords STONE dead... )
/geek
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Date: 2008-06-29 02:27 am (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2008-06-29 02:33 am (UTC)From:[Sighs]
But all this is not as irritating as me suddenly realising I've misspelled regeneration at least twice in my last comment!
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Date: 2008-06-29 02:36 am (UTC)From:Pondering fan reaction, and I wonder if us old Whovians are more likely to embrace a regeneration than the new fans? The same way that old fans aren't as hot and bothered over new companions? Ooooh! Roooooose! /cough
Pardon my snark [g]
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Date: 2008-06-29 02:43 am (UTC)From:As someone on my flist once said, a lot of the fans who were introduced to the show through New Who thought they were watching the RoseTyler show, and felt awfully betrayed at the end of season two as a result - and I can kind of see their point. if I hadn't watched DW as a kid...
And now if Ten is leaving...
Maybe, RTD is trying to soften up the audience, for the real thing? Because, lets face it, Moffat will probably want to have his very own Doctor to play with...
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Date: 2008-06-29 02:49 am (UTC)From:[snicker]
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Date: 2008-06-29 08:07 am (UTC)From:[snicker]
And, I agree... Since I'm an older fan (Sylvester McCoy as my favorite Doctor (or, as I call him, 'Sly'. Even said it to his face. [weg]) I'm not all "NOOOOOOOO! HE NEEDS TO STAY AND BE HAPPY WITH HIS TRU LUV, ROSE!" (Gah! Gave myself a headache just reading that!)
I mean, I like Tennant in the role, but I figured it would happen sooner or later... 3 seasons is a good run for a Doctor.
Then again, it could be a reset (Which I think is a-a cop-out, and b-passe since they did it as the season ender of last season!).
If it is a reset, I don't know if I'd enjoy it as much... I mean, come on! How many times are aliens going to take over the Earth and decimate the human race to only be have it set back to right and no one remember it! We need something like this as a planet to move forward in the galactic forum!
[ahem] Sorry... I'll get off my soap box now...
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Date: 2008-06-29 10:12 pm (UTC)From:I have bits of theories floating around, but most of them involve Cosmic Reset Buttons. Which we've already used (twice), so part of me actually wants consequences. OTOH, David Tennant is my TV Boyfriend, so I'm reluctant to let him go.
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Date: 2008-06-29 06:20 am (UTC)From:I don't buy that explanation. I think it having been been an "echo" of a full regeneration, just as the Doctor said Jenny's having two hearts only made her an "echo" of a Time Lord, is more believable than it being the terraforming stuff working that late and that specifically after its release. But then there's lots of New Who writing that doesn't impress me.
Also, the hand only regrew because Ten had just undergone a full regeneration...
It was more than his having been through a full regeneration, it was his having been through the regeneration because of being suffused with the energy from the vortex which he spent so much of the special bleeding back out. Thing is, however, with RTD having brought "Bad Wolf" back up I'll be surprised if that particular reset button/Deus Ex Machina isn't revisited.
...they'd have to hand wave away Nine/Ten's explanation of how a regeneration works in New Who and retcon the Time War...
I'm hoping some retconning of the Time War is on the agenda, just not enough to fuck up Captain Jack Harkness's being a fixed point.