ithildin: (Methos Dark)
Welcome to the fifth installment of Methos Episode discussion. You can find the last one, for 'Timeless' here.

Deliverance, Air Date: Feb. 1996

MacLeod arrives in France, leaving a trail of hate and destruction in his wake. Methos finds him and discovers just how evil MacLeod has become when he tries to take Methos' head on holy ground. After MacLeod kills another good friend, Methos realizes that the only way to save MacLeod may be to kill him. ~ via tv.com


Next up will be Methuselah's Gift . Look for it on Thursday.


Deliverance

Date: 2006-05-08 08:09 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] eveningblue.livejournal.com
I have to admit this is one of those episodes I just don't get, and haven't gone back to watch again.

First, I don't really understand the premise of the "dark Quickening." More precisely, I don't get why killing evil people doesn't *always* produce dire effects in the killer. Why doesn't Duncan turn a little bit evil every time he kills an evil Immortal? How does the whole transfer-of-energy even work during a Quickening?

Second, I don't get why Methos is going to all this trouble to save Duncan. It's very nice of him, it's very nice for us slashers, but why? "You're too important to lose" is not good enough.

Finally, it breaks my heart to see him kill Sean Burns. I hate the writers for doing that to him.

Re: Deliverance

Date: 2006-05-08 08:16 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
ext_9031: (Methos Blue)
Maybe it was all so AP could writhe around in the Holy Hot Tub?

The whole Dark Quickening thing... something I've been meaning to ask, because I no longer remember. Is it canon that Daruis becoming a good guy was due to a "Light Quickening"? I knew once, but now I don't. Brain's getting old :)

Date: 2006-05-08 09:40 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] sophiedb.livejournal.com
Maybe it was all so AP could writhe around in the Holy Hot Tub?

*lol* nail, meet head..

Re: Deliverance

Date: 2006-05-08 09:52 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] eveningblue.livejournal.com
Yes, I was thinking of the Quickening that Darius took that made him "good," and also of the fact that Duncan is supposedly helped to turn back to goodness when he takes Sean's Quickening. Why do some Quickenings transfer goodness or evil, while others don't? It is confusing to me.

Re: Deliverance

Date: 2006-05-10 09:50 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] ekaterinn.livejournal.com
I think "Light" and "Dark" Quickenings have to do with the magnitude of the Quickening. The Dark Quickening that Duncan suffers in the episode was made up of all these evil Immortals, while an usual Quickening from an evil Immortal would presumably have innocent and "good" Quickenings inside it as well. Does that make sense?

Date: 2006-05-08 09:52 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] sophiedb.livejournal.com
I don't get why Methos is going to all this trouble to save Duncan.. [snip] .."You're too important to lose" is not good enough.

Duncan dying or staying evil would mean that Methos would have to find another horse to back as far as winning the Game goes. If it really was the time of the Gathering, he probably wouldn't have enough time to make the same level of investment in befriending the presumed winner.. and if it's Duncan (in good, honourable mode) he's got a better chance of living forever.

I don't buy the idea that Methos ever really let his skills get rusty, but anyone who attracts (and beats) as many K'Immies as Duncan has got to be good enough to give him a run for his money. If it comes down to just Duncan, Methos and maybe some of their friends, he can just appeal to Duncan's nice side and pull out a bottle of old whisky.

Then again, if a Dark Quickening's already tipped Duncan over once, what would happen if he (or anyone else) *had* to take Methos' head? There's still an ex-Horseman lurking around in there. Maybe that's contributing to his need to survive, not wanting to let all that get loose again *scratches head*

The Game

Date: 2006-05-08 10:02 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] eveningblue.livejournal.com
So you think if The Game came down to Duncan and a few pals, he wouldn't kill any of them? I agree with you, but (within the parameters of The Game) isn't he supposed to kill everyone else? There Can Be Only One, and all that crap.

I don't really get the whole Game business either. Or The Gathering. Come to think of it, there's a lot about this show that I don't get.

(love your icon; Methos looks perfect in it. What episode is it from?)

Date: 2006-05-08 11:00 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] sophiedb.livejournal.com
The Game/Gathering doesn't make sense to me either. If they're supposed to be killing each other, how come so many choose the whole "live and let live" approach? Or at least, not fighting anyone unless challenged or otherwise provoked. Is there supposed to be an Immortal "on" switch that'll send them all into a murderous frenzy one day?

"There Can Be Only One" unless you're my mate, in which case it's your round :)

Regards the icon, I honestly don't know which episode it's from.. Found while searching for icon-fodder (same goes for this one). Bad Soph!

Date: 2006-05-08 11:07 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
ext_9031: (Methos - Mr. Rochester)
"There Can Be Only One" unless you're my mate, in which case it's your round :)

"There Can Be Only A Few"!

Of course, wasn't Connor "The One" for a while? I remember he sure seemed to be at the end of the first movie. The Highlander universe isn't the most consistent one, that's for sure.

Date: 2006-05-08 11:55 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] pat-t.livejournal.com
Sorry, I don't usually do "I love your icon comments", but I really love your icon.

Date: 2006-05-09 12:05 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
ext_9031: (Methos - Mr. Rochester)
Everyone loves Sophie's icon!

BTW, I like yours, Pat, the Old As Time one. Very nice!

Date: 2006-05-09 06:53 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] pat-t.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that is one of Becky's. SHe's absolutely awesome and has really lovely icons. I also get some from Kathy who also does very lovely work.

Date: 2006-05-09 12:16 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] sophiedb.livejournal.com
Ta muchly! I like yours too, it's much more to the point about Methos being an old fart than any of mine :)

Date: 2006-05-09 06:54 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] pat-t.livejournal.com
lol, it does. It's on of Becky's. I'm pretty sure anyway.

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