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So George Lucas based Luke on himself, and Gene Roddenberry based Wesley on himself, and those are just two are off the top of my head, and now, I discover that one of the creators of How I Met Your Mother based Ted on himself and the other creator, Marshall. Yet I never see the screams of 'MARY SUE!' that I'm sure would exist if these guys were women.
Just an observation.
Ted was originally modeled on you, and Marshall on Craig. How far have those characters evolved from that? Do you ever sit around and say, "I wouldn't do that" or "We wouldn't do that to each other"?
Ted certainly isn't me anymore. I haven't been engaged, or had a lot of the other experiences he's had. It's more the characters have become themselves .We definitely do try to ask ourselves, "Would this happen to us? Would this happen to someone we know?" for all the characters. We try to keep them personal and real, but there's more overlap now. I relate to Marshall as much as I do to Ted.
Full text here, but it is spoilerish for the last ep of the season.
Just an observation.
Ted was originally modeled on you, and Marshall on Craig. How far have those characters evolved from that? Do you ever sit around and say, "I wouldn't do that" or "We wouldn't do that to each other"?
Ted certainly isn't me anymore. I haven't been engaged, or had a lot of the other experiences he's had. It's more the characters have become themselves .We definitely do try to ask ourselves, "Would this happen to us? Would this happen to someone we know?" for all the characters. We try to keep them personal and real, but there's more overlap now. I relate to Marshall as much as I do to Ted.
Full text here, but it is spoilerish for the last ep of the season.
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Date: 2009-05-19 08:44 pm (UTC)From:But if people are going to throw around the definition of "Mary Sue" and use such things as long hair and perfect bodies and our guys just falling all over themselves, yadda yadda - they fit the definition completely.
All Amanda had to do is rub up next to Richie and he was close to coming in his pants. He told her everything he knew. Joe was better off, but not by much. She had Duncan eating out of her hand even though she almost got him killed more than once. She could just do no wrong. Even when he was berating her it was more a *chuckle* gosh darn Amanda. Come here and let me love you - type of thing.
She was so perfect and pretty and special that another woman wanted to be *just like her*.
Yet, because of Liz's characterization, I adored the character. But by fandom's definition she is a Mary Sue.