'The Modern Prometheus'

[ithildin]

Welcome to the sixteenth installment of Methos Episode Discussion. You can find the last one, for Forgive Us Our Trespasses here. All prior episode discussion links can be found over on the sidebar.

The Modern Prometheus, Air Date: May 1997

Lord Byron, the brilliant Romantic poet, is alive and well and living the decadent life of a rock star. He lives life way over the edge and has taken some promising young musicians over the edge with him. When following in Byron's footsteps tragically ends the life of Dawson's protege, MacLeod is faced with a decision -- is the beauty and genius that is Byron worth the cost? ~ recap and quotes via tv.com

Quotes below the curtain





Duncan: Duncan: Cut the crap - Mike is dead because of him.
Methos: No, Mike is dead because of Mike.
Duncan: The kid idolized him. Maybe he didn't pull the trigger but he sure as hell put the gun in his hand. "To live like me you have to be like me." Come on, Methos, Mike couldn't do that, he wasn't Immortal.
Methos: And that is not Byron's fault
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Byron: My task is done. My song has ceased. My theme has died into an echo...it is fit.
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Byron: Would you rather have a tombstone that says "he lived for centuries', or one that says 'for centuries, he was alive"?
Methos: You're not listening to me - I don't want a tombstone.
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Next up will be Indiscretions aka The Methos & Joe Show 'Archangel'.

Comments

Re: An Honest Question

[lastrega.livejournal.com]

Then there's the bedroom scene with Byron, Mary, and Methos. Byron is under the influence, wanting to break every taboo he can, indulge in the forbidden and exciting, and he really wants Methos to do it with him. Methos is obviously tempted, but puts the brakes on and tells Byron to basically knock it off. Again, nothing in that scene screams 'lovers' to me, just general licentiousness.

To me, everything in that scene screams a certain level of sexual familiarity between Methos and Byron. What I see Methos objecting to is the idea that they didn't need Mary conscious and consenting to include her in their games. If she'd woken up right about then, it might have been a different story.

Also, the Watcher Chronicles out them both. In conclusion, Methos and Byron? SoDoingIt.

Re: An Honest Question

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

Also, the Watcher Chronicles out them both. In conclusion, Methos and Byron? SoDoingIt.

See, I haven't read any of that, so I only have the episode to go by.

I'm not saying anyone else is wrong, just trying to get a handle on the whole thing.

And I'm thinking typing out comments after a couple of gin and tonics may not be the most coherent thing I've ever done :)

Re: An Honest Question

[lastrega.livejournal.com]

Nah, you're doing fine.

As for the Watcher Chronicles, if you've got the dvd sets, then the info's on there in the special features.

Re: An Honest Question

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

Heh! Glad you think so, cus I'm fairly bleary at this point :)

I haven't yet worked my way through the sub menus. Wasn't sure there was anything much in there. But I'll have to make a point to dig a little deeper now I know there's useful info there.

Re: An Honest Question

[lastrega.livejournal.com]

There's definitely some good stuff in there. Some deadset lame stuff as well, but that's what the stop button is for.

Re: An Honest Question

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

I have read some of the bits that tell you what swords different immies used and such, but I thought that pretty much was all that was in there. I've only had the DVDs a few months, so I I know I haven't hit everything yet.

Watcher Chronicles

[eveningblue.livejournal.com]

When you say that the Watcher Chronicles outs them both, what are you referring to? All I remember is the bit about Methos being attracted to strong, charismatic Immortals, and weak women. I thought they went out of their way to be ambiguous, actually, in saying "Immortals" rather than "men," and "attracted to" rather than "in love with" or some such more explicit phrase.

I mean, I see it the same way you do, but I do think there's wiggle room in there, unless you're referring to something else in the Watcher Chronicles.

Re: Watcher Chronicles

[lastrega.livejournal.com]

I mean the Chronicle entry for Byron that states he was 'enjoying' Mary Shelley, Claire and the Doctor in the debaucheries at the chateau that summer. I don't have the exact quote in front of me, but that's pretty close.

Re: Watcher Chronicles

[(Anonymous)]

Historically speaking it is well established that Byron went both ways (and sideways) sexually and that he had a sexual relationship with his doctor. As they put Methos in the role thereof, it is probably safe to say that the intention was to make clear (or very strongly imply) that Byron and Methos had been lovers.

Knowing this historical fact, I was shocked when Byron called Methos "Doc" since to me it removed any doubt as to the bi-sexual nature of Methos character and his possible motives with Duncan.

Roberta

Re: Watcher Chronicles

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

Roberta, why aren't you using your LJ account and all the pretty icons I made you? [g]

Okay, you lost me. What does him calling Methos "Doc" have to do with sexual orientation? Methos was a doctor at the time.

Re: Watcher Chronicles

[lastrega.livejournal.com]

I think we were meant to infer that 'Doc' was Dr Polidori, author of 'The Vampire' and Byron's companion in that time period. Byron was sexually omnivorous, and it's fairly well documented that he and Polidori were sexually involved. Ipso facto, Polidori = Methos = Does It With Boys.

*gasp*

Re: Watcher Chronicles

[ithildyn.livejournal.com]

Thanks :) We ended up talking aobut it in email, so now I get what she meant. Thanks for the additional information! Who says the interent can't be educational? [g]